New Firmware 4045 is in the air!

Yes, and, No. It is much, much better that 4042. But there are still small issues. I have had one small flare up when I went to turn up the temp from 200. It quickly went from 200 to 350 and slowly corrected to 250. And my unit has always ran 15-25 degrees cooler that the controller temp (which is within the plus or minus 50 degrees which Weber claims is normal grill operation). This makes a difference on timed cooks (when is dinner ready). But that is better than hotter than the set point. The kicker is that it has been a LONG time since I got that version. I am sure that there is something newer in development. And the fact that the recent app update appeared to have a much bigger effect on the SF operation than we expected leads me to question what happens if we want to run the SF without a phone app. I would think that it should run fine. Then why does the phone app have such a large effect? And then Weber recently purchased their firmware company June.

Yes, the 4045 version is much better and I will not trash my SF. I am inhibited more by my cooking abilities. The best thing that I have done recently is to start using a large oven drip pan (16 X 18 X 1/2) to sit on the flavorizer bars and cover the fire box. This diffuses the heat from rising straight up and distributes it around the grill.

A year ago, I was flaming Weber fairly hard. Now, I just think that Weber did not understand and was not ready for the big jump from burning charcoal to feeding pellets at a set rate, blue tooth, wifi, firmware, etc. that goes into a modern pellet grill. They had an eye opening moment and are trying to make good on their name and brand recognition. The little details are important and that is what they need to fix now. However, their attention to preformed cookbook recipes in the app when the units are not stable, reliable, and reproducible raises new questions. Best wishes, alh.
 
Yes, and, No. It is much, much better that 4042. But there are still small issues. I have had one small flare up when I went to turn up the temp from 200. It quickly went from 200 to 350 and slowly corrected to 250. And my unit has always ran 15-25 degrees cooler that the controller temp (which is within the plus or minus 50 degrees which Weber claims is normal grill operation). This makes a difference on timed cooks (when is dinner ready). But that is better than hotter than the set point. The kicker is that it has been a LONG time since I got that version. I am sure that there is something newer in development. And the fact that the recent app update appeared to have a much bigger effect on the SF operation than we expected leads me to question what happens if we want to run the SF without a phone app. I would think that it should run fine. Then why does the phone app have such a large effect? And then Weber recently purchased their firmware company June.

Yes, the 4045 version is much better and I will not trash my SF. I am inhibited more by my cooking abilities. The best thing that I have done recently is to start using a large oven drip pan (16 X 18 X 1/2) to sit on the flavorizer bars and cover the fire box. This diffuses the heat from rising straight up and distributes it around the grill.

A year ago, I was flaming Weber fairly hard. Now, I just think that Weber did not understand and was not ready for the big jump from burning charcoal to feeding pellets at a set rate, blue tooth, wifi, firmware, etc. that goes into a modern pellet grill. They had an eye opening moment and are trying to make good on their name and brand recognition. The little details are important and that is what they need to fix now. However, their attention to preformed cookbook recipes in the app when the units are not stable, reliable, and reproducible raises new questions. Best wishes, alh.
Very well articulated and I agree the software and firmware for the SF will get better and there are not many large brand companies that have a core belief in making things right for their customers anymore. I think Weber does a good job on that end overall.
 
Not that I know.
 
The 4042 firmware has worked brilliantly for me, I always have a little fear and dread with new updates on my EX4 as they don't always improve it over the last one, I've found from past experience in the past 13 months.
 
The 4042 firmware has worked brilliantly for me, I always have a little fear and dread with new updates on my EX4 as they don't always improve it over the last one, I've found from past experience in the past 13 months.
At what temps are you cooking and do you use SmokeBoost?
 
I did a pizza and some plancha cooking at 600F the weekend and it reached and held temp perfectly for the both cook and when plancha cooking, temps recovered quickly if lid was opened and has since I downloaded it.

Haven't used Smokeboost for a couple of weeks but has worked fine also , when I set increase of temp after finishing with Smokeboost it climbs from the 150F (Smokeboost temp) to whatever temp I have set it to climb to.

Had no filling of the pot, shutdowns in the cook with this one. For me (I know not for everyone) it has been bang on the button every cook, best one so far only thing I am uncertain of if the pellet consumption has gone up?

I was thinking last week if firmware updates are designed for different models in the range or if it is a one fits all and they sometimes work better on the EX4 than the EX6 or vice versa as they are considerably different in size and capacity although the same internals
 
I think what we are seeing is that the app software has more control than we originally thought and the firm ware has less control/effect.
 
I think what we are seeing is that the app software has more control than we originally thought and the firm ware has less control/effect.
That’s not how it works. The app is not even necessary to use the grill.
The app is the simply an interface via wireless/bluetooth to control the grill and access menus/alarms etc AND for downloading the grill’s firmware updates.
Once a firmware update is pushed to out to the app, it waits there. The grill first syncs on startup with bluetooth, it checks version history.
IF an update is found, it is pushed to the grill via bluetooth from your connected device.
The firmware is a set of “instructions” on a EEPROM (electronically erasable /programmable) chip in the grill and is the “nerve center” for everything the grill does, once started.
 
That’s not how it works. The app is not even necessary to use the grill.
The app is the simply an interface via wireless/bluetooth to control the grill and access menus/alarms etc AND for downloading the grill’s firmware updates.
Once a firmware update is pushed to out to the app, it waits there. The grill first syncs on startup with bluetooth, it checks version history.
IF an update is found, it is pushed to the grill via bluetooth from your connected device.
The firmware is a set of “instructions” on a EEPROM (electronically erasable /programmable) chip in the grill and is the “nerve center” for everything the grill does, once started.

I understand what you are saying but we are seeing improved behaviour with the app updates alone.
 
That’s not how it works. The app is not even necessary to use the grill.
The app is the simply an interface via wireless/bluetooth to control the grill and access menus/alarms etc AND for downloading the grill’s firmware updates.
Once a firmware update is pushed to out to the app, it waits there. The grill first syncs on startup with bluetooth, it checks version history.
IF an update is found, it is pushed to the grill via bluetooth from your connected device.
The firmware is a set of “instructions” on a EEPROM (electronically erasable /programmable) chip in the grill and is the “nerve center” for everything the grill does, once started.
I would not disagree but too many of us have seen great improvements of performance with the app updates. And I would say that that makes absolutely no sense because if that was true one would have to have the app running to make the grill operate properly. There is something that we do not know.
 
Could be coincidence that the grill is running better; could also be the grill is learning its environment/pellet performance better. I would be surprised if the app is doing any controlling other that setting temperatures when the user makes a change in the app.
 
It might be coincidence but there are too many getting better results. As far as the grill learning, I will say no, the grill does not have memory. That would inhibit the response to current conditions. It must live in the conditions of the current run.
Could be coincidence that the grill is running better; could also be the grill is learning its environment/pellet performance better. I would be surprised if the app is doing any controlling other that setting temperatures when the user makes a change in the app
 
In my case, the grill is going the other way, not able to attain anything over 450f, even after Weber sent a new auger. The problem started after the last firmware update several months ago.
 
Same experience for me Rex.

The new update coming is a few more revisions over 04045, possibly in the 0405x's.

Honeyman, did you get an update to the latest beta version?
 

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